Perfect Cell vs Sun Goku

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Perfect Cell vs Sun Goku
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* Yu Narukami	Jan 2 2012, 03:43 PM Post #16
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	SSJ2 Goku and Madoshi Vegeta are in the same ball-park as SSJ2 Kid Gohan. Goku gets pwned in Boo Arc imo.



Voids	Jan 2 2012, 03:48 PM Post #17
Posts: 55 Group: Member Member #7,155 Joined: January 1, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga Naruto	Mirai Trunks Jan 2 2012, 03:43 PM SSJ2 Goku and Madoshi Vegeta are in the same ball-park as SSJ2 Kid Gohan. Goku gets pwned in Boo Arc imo. But we are talking about him having his buu arc PL in Cell arc... not if he gets owed in the buu arc
	" You think you can stop me Cell!"


Balthazor	Jan 3 2012, 10:05 AM Post #18
I'm damn serious Posts: 1,762 Group: Member Member #3,096 Joined: January 7, 2008 Favourite Anime DBZ , YuYu Hakusho ,Inuyasha , Yu Gi Oh , Pokemon What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga DBZ , YuYu Hakusho ,Inuyasha , Yu Gi Oh ,Naruto	Voids Jan 2 2012, 03:48 PM Mirai Trunks Jan 2 2012, 03:43 PM SSJ2 Goku and Madoshi Vegeta are in the same ball-park as SSJ2 Kid Gohan. Goku gets pwned in Boo Arc imo. But we are talking about him having his buu arc PL in Cell arc... not if he gets owed in the buu arc What?
	Cell-"Now you will witness the terror of perfection!"- Best wrestler ever R.I.P Hopper June 6th 2002~August 18th 2011


~~Paikuan extreme~~	Jan 3 2012, 10:22 AM Post #19
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	naw, unfortunately with the other forms come boosters to strength as well, goku DID improve his mssj, but not by much, he maxed out his potential in that form, and it was implied that even by the buu arc his mssj was still no match for cells, who's "ssj" level is compared to brolys in movie 10. A broly who's ssj is stronger than gokus by a good margin. By EOZ he could take cell in base but not by the buu arc, not enuff time.



Voids	Jan 3 2012, 04:03 PM Post #20
Posts: 55 Group: Member Member #7,155 Joined: January 1, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? google chrome Favourite Manga Naruto	Ninjajp247 Jan 3 2012, 10:22 AM naw, unfortunately with the other forms come boosters to strength as well, goku DID improve his mssj, but not by much, he maxed out his potential in that form, and it was implied that even by the buu arc his mssj was still no match for cells, who's "ssj" level is compared to brolys in movie 10. A broly who's ssj is stronger than gokus by a good margin. By EOZ he could take cell in base but not by the buu arc, not enuff time. I see hmm, I always thought that goku was a lot stronger, you know being able to at least survive a good amount of attacks from Buuhan, while goku was in MSSJin maybe I'm just wrong
	" You think you can stop me Cell!"


Balthazor	Jan 3 2012, 04:30 PM Post #21
I'm damn serious Posts: 1,762 Group: Member Member #3,096 Joined: January 7, 2008 Favourite Anime DBZ , YuYu Hakusho ,Inuyasha , Yu Gi Oh , Pokemon What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga DBZ , YuYu Hakusho ,Inuyasha , Yu Gi Oh ,Naruto	Voids Jan 3 2012, 04:03 PM Ninjajp247 Jan 3 2012, 10:22 AM naw, unfortunately with the other forms come boosters to strength as well, goku DID improve his mssj, but not by much, he maxed out his potential in that form, and it was implied that even by the buu arc his mssj was still no match for cells, who's "ssj" level is compared to brolys in movie 10. A broly who's ssj is stronger than gokus by a good margin. By EOZ he could take cell in base but not by the buu arc, not enuff time. I see hmm, I always thought that goku was a lot stronger, you know being able to at least survive a good amount of attacks from Buuhan, while goku was in MSSJin maybe I'm just wrong Please refrain from using Anime or filler in DBZ debates,many people detest that here.Because Goku never fought Buuhan.
	Cell-"Now you will witness the terror of perfection!"- Best wrestler ever R.I.P Hopper June 6th 2002~August 18th 2011


MysticGotenks	Jan 4 2012, 10:56 PM Post #22
Posts: 761 Group: Member Member #7,087 Joined: December 17, 2011	Balthazor Jan 3 2012, 04:30 PM Voids Jan 3 2012, 04:03 PM Ninjajp247 Jan 3 2012, 10:22 AM naw, unfortunately with the other forms come boosters to strength as well, goku DID improve his mssj, but not by much, he maxed out his potential in that form, and it was implied that even by the buu arc his mssj was still no match for cells, who's "ssj" level is compared to brolys in movie 10. A broly who's ssj is stronger than gokus by a good margin. By EOZ he could take cell in base but not by the buu arc, not enuff time. I see hmm, I always thought that goku was a lot stronger, you know being able to at least survive a good amount of attacks from Buuhan, while goku was in MSSJin maybe I'm just wrong Please refrain from using Anime or filler in DBZ debates,many people detest that here.Because Goku never fought Buuhan. He is yet to read the manga, so he doesn't yet know whats filler and whats manga orientated. Give him some time to read up on it, if Void has not yet started already... Edited by MysticGotenks, Jan 4 2012, 10:57 PM.
	Hey Piccolo......are..are you a Yoshi?


~~Paikuan extreme~~	Jan 4 2012, 11:47 PM Post #23
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	not to mention for the sake of filler, i remember goku hitting ssj3 when buutenks(not han) came after him. But then powered down when he lost gotenks power. buuhan absorbs gohan and goku gives the earing to vegeta. They formed vegito in base, not ssj. The anime does seem stupid from the mangas point. Almost like toei tried to get away with changing the story. Like every writer that gets to tear up a source and then claim their story is based on it. Annoying. Edited by Paikuan extreme, Jan 4 2012, 11:48 PM.



+ Pyrus	Jan 5 2012, 12:30 AM Post #24
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Yeah, just allow him to catch his bearings and read the manga before we make any hasty comments.
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~~CookieZ~~	Jan 5 2012, 12:21 PM Post #25
Posts: 16 Group: Banned Member #7,165 Joined: January 4, 2012 Favourite Anime DBZ,DB What Browser do you use? MoZZila	Well,I think Goku could win if he makes Instant Kamehameha,but just expands the wave a bit so it hits WHOLE Cell



~~Ajith~~	Jan 5 2012, 10:09 PM Post #26
Posts: 187 Group: GTFO Member #6,754 Joined: September 15, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	I dont think I need to say this, but DBZ episode of "No More Rules" showcased that FPSSJ Goku and Perfect Cell were dead even: which led to AWESOME fight!!! Even if KP or anyone might call that as filler, its no one secret that Toriyama has involvements of the fillers of DBZ, large chunk fillers like the Garlic Jr. and OtherWorld Tournament, so, what the big deal with just some small amount of fillers in a single episode. Besides, the author or his editors/assistants are also used as guides during anime productions by the anime staff's, which they would use as guidelines, etc. Some talented Animators of DBZ like Yammamura Tadayoshi, Nakamura, etc have talked on Toriyama's involvement in DBZ anime fillers. Given that, Im sure that FPSSJ Goku was somewhere near to at least 50% Perfect Cell, and with that, I've stated the venue was the Earth. Anyone could blast the planet apart, but since that's not the rules of the versus, I can say that the fight would be even, with Cell's power restricted to 50%.



+ Pyrus	Jan 5 2012, 10:32 PM Post #27
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Ajith Jan 5 2012, 10:09 PM I dont think I need to say this, but DBZ episode of "No More Rules" showcased that FPSSJ Goku and Perfect Cell were dead even: which led to AWESOME fight!!! Even if KP or anyone might call that as filler, its no one secret that Toriyama has involvements of the fillers of DBZ, large chunk fillers like the Garlic Jr. and OtherWorld Tournament, so, what the big deal with just some small amount of fillers in a single episode. Besides, the author or his editors/assistants are also used as guides during anime productions by the anime staff's, which they would use as guidelines, etc. Some talented Animators of DBZ like Yammamura Tadayoshi, Nakamura, etc have talked on Toriyama's involvement in DBZ anime fillers. Given that, Im sure that FPSSJ Goku was somewhere near to at least 50% Perfect Cell, and with that, I've stated the venue was the Earth. Anyone could blast the planet apart, but since that's not the rules of the versus, I can say that the fight would be even, with Cell's power restricted to 50%. Toriyama was barely involved when it came to filler. He said he had faith in the anime staff, and only pitched ideas once in a while, such as Yamcha being a baseball player.
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~~Paikuan extreme~~	Jan 5 2012, 11:17 PM Post #28
Posts: 5,568 Group: Suspended Member #5,921 Joined: March 29, 2011 Favourite Anime dbz What Browser do you use? ie9 Favourite Manga akira	i love that he cared enuff to add some of the stuff only played out in filler or the video games. One thing you missed ajith- goku was no where NEAR cells full power state. ONLY gohan was. Im just guessing but im gonna say that cell dropped his speed level and then strength to match goku, who i would guess at the most was about 65-75% of cells overall power. Much to big a gap for cell to not stomp. and since gohan was already hiding ssj2 (filler i know) his mssj level was already up to mssj goku in the buu saga. But as teen gohan lost his edge, having me put his power in mssj to around cell games goku. thus my belief he lost up to a max of about 35% of his power access overall.



~~Ajith~~	Jan 6 2012, 04:52 AM Post #29
Posts: 187 Group: GTFO Member #6,754 Joined: September 15, 2011 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z Favourite Manga Dragon Ball Z	Ninjajp247 Jan 5 2012, 11:17 PM i love that he cared enuff to add some of the stuff only played out in filler or the video games. One thing you missed ajith- goku was no where NEAR cells full power state. ONLY gohan was. Im just guessing but im gonna say that cell dropped his speed level and then strength to match goku, who i would guess at the most was about 65-75% of cells overall power. Much to big a gap for cell to not stomp. and since gohan was already hiding ssj2 (filler i know) his mssj level was already up to mssj goku in the buu saga. But as teen gohan lost his edge, having me put his power in mssj to around cell games goku. thus my belief he lost up to a max of about 35% of his power access overall. Dude, u missed the point. Just, look at my first statement just after I opened the topic. I mentioned that Perfect Cell's power are restricted to 50%. And u are talkin about goku not being anywhere NEAR to full power Cell, gohan hiding ssj2, etc. I just dont get what you're tryin to make out here...



* Yu Narukami	Jan 6 2012, 10:10 PM Post #30
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Compared to Perfect Cell and MSSJ Gohan, MSSJ Goku's kinda pathetic. When Gohan turned SSJ2, Cell decided to go to Full Power. Goku was scared at Cell's Power-up after he'd seen Gohan's transformation, suggesting Cell is somewhere near to surpressed SSJ2 Gohan. 50% Cell would win with some difficulty imo.



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